P0C2F Internal Control Module Drive Motor/Generator – Engine Speed Sensor Performance
OBD-II Trouble Code Technical Description
Internal Control Module Drive Motor/Generator – Engine Speed Sensor Performance
What does that mean?
This generic powertrain diagnostic trouble code (DTC) typically applies to many OBD-II vehicles. That may include but is not limited to vehicles from Tesla, Toyota, Nissan, Ford, Chevrolet, BMW, etc.
When a code P0C2F is stored, it means that the powertrain control module (PCM) has detected an internal processor performance error with the drive motor/generator – engine speed sensor circuit. Other controllers may also detect an internal PCM performance error (with the drive motor/generator – engine speed sensor) and cause a P0C2F to be stored.
The code P0C2F is limited exclusively to total electric and hybrid vehicles.
Internal control module monitoring processors are responsible for various controller self-test duties and overall internal control module accountability. Ignition coil control system input and output signals are subject to self-test and are monitored constantly by the PCM and other related controllers. The transmission control module (TCM), traction control module (TCSM), and other controllers also interact with the drive motor/generator – engine speed sensor circuit.
The drive motor/generator – engine speed sensor is typically an electromagnetic sensor that interacts with some type of toothed reluctor ring, wheel, or gear that is mechanically affixed to the drive motor/generator armature shaft. As the drive motor/generator spins, so spins the reluctor ring. As the reluctor passes by (in very close proximity to) the sensor, the notches in the reluctor ring create interruptions in the electromagnetic sensor circuit. These interruptions are received by the PCM (and other controllers) as wave form patterns. The faster the wave form patterns are input into the controller, the higher the estimated drive motor/generator – engine speed. As the input of wave forms slow, drive motor/generator – engine speed estimation (as perceived by the controller) decreases. These input signals are compared (between modules) via the controller area network (CAN).
Whenever the ignition is on and the PCM is energized, drive motor/generator – engine speed sensor system self-tests are initiated. In addition to running internal controller self-tests, the controller area network (CAN) also compares signals from each individual module to ensure that each controller is functioning properly. These tests are performed simultaneously.
If the PCM detects an internal discrepancy in the drive motor/generator – engine speed sensor system processor, a code P0C2F will be stored and a malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) may be illuminated.
If the PCM detects a problem between any of the on-board controllers, which would indicate an internal drive motor/generator – engine speed sensor system error, a code P0C2F will be stored and a malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) may be illuminated. Multiple failure cycles may be necessary for MIL illumination, depending upon the perceived severity of the malfunction.
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What is the severity of this DTC?
Internal control module processor codes should be categorized as severe. A stored code P0C2F could result in a variety of drivability concerns.
What are some of the symptoms of the code?
Symptoms of a P0C2F trouble code may include:
What are some of the common causes of the code?
Causes for this code may include:
What are some P0C2F troubleshooting steps?
Even to the most experienced and well-equipped professional technician, diagnosing a code P0C2F can prove to be quite a challenge. There is also the issue of reprogramming. Without the necessary reprograming equipment, it will be impossible to replace a defective controller and complete a successful repair.
If there are ECM/PCM power supply codes present, they will obviously need to be rectified before attempting to diagnose a P0C2F.
There are several preliminary tests that can be performed prior to declaring any controller defective. A diagnostic scanner, a digital volt/ohmmeter (DVOM), and a source of reliable vehicle information will be required.
Connect the scanner to the vehicle diagnostic port and retrieve all stored codes and freeze frame data. You will want to write this information down, just in case the code proves to be an intermittent one. After recording all pertinent information, clear the codes and test drive the vehicle until the code is reset or the PCM enters readiness mode. If the PCM enters readiness mode, the code is intermittent and will be more difficult ot diagnose. The condition, which caused the P0C2F to be stored, may even need to worsen before a diagnosis can be made. If the code is reset, continue with this short list of preliminary tests.
When attempting to diagnose a P0C2F, information may be your greatest tool. Search you vehicle information source for technical service bulletins (TSB) that parallel the code stored, vehicle (year, make, model, and engine), and symptoms exhibited. If you find the right TSB, it may yield diagnostic information that will aid you in a major way.
Use your source of vehicle information to obtain connector face views, connector pin-out charts, component locators, wiring diagrams, and diagnostic flow charts related to the code and vehicle in question.
Use the DVOM to test controller power supply fuses and relays. Test and replace blown fuses as required. Fuses should be tested with the circuit loaded.
If all fuses and relays appear to be functioning as intended, a visual inspection of controller related wiring and harnesses is in order. You will also want to check chassis and engine ground junctions. Use your vehicle information source to obtain ground locations for related circuits. Use the DVOM to test ground integrity.
Visually inspect system controllers for signs of water, heat, or collision damage. Any controller that is damaged, especially by water, should be considered defective.
If controller power and ground circuits are intact, suspect a defective controller or a controller programming error. Controller replacement will require reprogramming. In some cases, you may purchase reprogrammed controllers through aftermarket sources. Other vehicles/controllers will require on-board reprogramming that may only be done through a dealership or other qualified source.
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